Eileen Fisher started her career as an interior and graphic designer. But that changed in the 80s. Eileen took a trip to Japan, where the kimono inspired her to start her own fashion brand. With no experience in clothing design. It’s worked out for her: These days, she’s the woman behind – you guessed it – Eileen Fisher.

On the Couch, she talks to us about how she started her business (4:15), growing her company as an introvert (9:20), and why her company doesn’t have your average leadership structure (15:30).

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